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Cost Plan — SysEleven Infrastructure

Companion to INFRASTRUCTURE.md and IMPLEMENTATION_PLAN.md. Pricing source: SysEleven-Cloud-Services-Preisinformationen_01_26_v2.pdf (effective 2026-01-20). All prices net EUR, exclusive of 19% VAT. Region: DUS2 + HAM1.


1. TL;DR

Locked topology (2026-05-18): 4 billable VMs — 1 stage + 3 prod — totalling 48 GiB-RAM. See INFRASTRUCTURE.md §1.

All four pricing modes, side by side, at the locked sizing:

Mode Compute €/mo Storage €/mo Network €/mo Total net €/mo + 19% VAT Annual gross €
On-Demand 434.50 112 2.92 549.42 653.81 7,846
12-month commit 295.20 112 2.92 410.12 488.04 5,856
36-month no upfront 216.00 112 2.92 330.92 393.79 4,725
36-month upfront 192.00 112 2.92 306.92 365.23 4,383

36M upfront one-time payment: €6,912 net at signing (compute only; storage + network still billed monthly).

Recommended cash plan for Year 1:

  1. Months 13: burn On-Demand (~€549/mo) while flavors get proven against real workload
  2. Month 4 onward: sign 36M-upfront commit at proven size (~€307/mo)
  3. Year-1 total infra: €4,410 net / €5,248 gross + one-time €6,912 upfront in Month 4

Growth tiers extend that same baseline (next 4 sections drill in).


2. What to use / what to skip

Use from day one

Service Why Cost
OpenStack IaaS (m2 GP) Bread and butter. General-purpose 1:4 vCPU:RAM fits everything. per VM, see §3
Block Storage (Ceph) 3x replicated, persistent. €0.10/GiB/mo. per GiB
Object Storage (S3) Backups, audit logs, demo seed bundles, export ZIPs. €0.02/GiB/mo. per GiB
Floating IP Public IPs for vm-edge (1) and stage (1). €2.92/IP/mo
VPN as a Service Inclusive. Use for ops access from our laptops. €0
Self-Service Support Free. Adequate while we're shaking out the platform. €0

Defer until clearly needed

Service When to add Cost
DNS Zones (DNSaaS) Never — we self-host PowerDNS on vm-edge per self-hosted-oss-first €10/zone — skipped
Load Balancer (Octavia) When we add a second vm-edge for HA (Tier D). Until then orca-proxy + Floating IP is enough. €14.6057.67/mo
Business Support When MRR > €5k. Below that, Self-Service docs cover us. €185/mo
Priority Support Only if we sign an Enterprise contract that requires <1h response. €545/mo
DDoS Guard PLUS After first attack OR before launching anything customer-promoted. €875/mo
DBaaS PostgreSQL Cluster When tenant_registry Postgres becomes the bottleneck (200+ customers, see RISK-1 in INFRASTRUCTURE.md). €213426/mo per cluster (m2.smallmedium, 36M upfront)
MetaKube Core (managed K8s) We use Orca (the user's own product). MetaKube would compete with Orca, not complement it. Skip unless Orca is replaced. €0 by design
Managed VM (Business/Priority) Defeats Orca. We are the ones who manage VMs. skipped — saves €1k+/mo
Operational Support Platform €759–€1,479/mo. Massive overkill until late stage. skipped

GPU instances (separate concern)

LiteLLM today is a passthrough. If we ever self-host an inference model:

  • L40S (24 GB GPU RAM): €1,309/mo On-Demand, €1,086 (12M), €877 (24M)
  • H100 NVL (94 GB): €5,755/mo On-Demand, €4,637 (12M), €3,743 (24M)

For now: route LLM calls through LiteLLM → external provider. Add GPU only if a customer pays for dedicated inference.


3. Per-VM sizing — Locked topology (Tier A, 5 customers)

Flavor mapping from INFRASTRUCTURE.md §1 to SysEleven m2 General Purpose (1 vCPU : 4 GiB RAM, 50 GiB ephemeral root included).

Compute — all four pricing modes side by side

VM Env Flavor vCPU RAM On-Demand 12M 36M no-upfront 36M upfront
stage stage m2.small 2 8 GB 72.42 49.20 36.00 32.00
vm-edge prod m2.small 2 8 GB 72.42 49.20 36.00 32.00
vm-control prod m2.medium 4 16 GB 144.83 98.40 72.00 64.00
vm-data prod m2.medium 4 16 GB 144.83 98.40 72.00 64.00
TOTAL 12 48 GB 434.50 295.20 216.00 192.00

36M upfront one-time cost: 192 × 36 = €6,912 net at signing (compute only; everything else billed monthly).

Reference per-GiB-RAM rates (the linear model behind all numbers above):

Mode €/GiB-RAM/mo
On-Demand 9.05
12M commit 6.15
36M no-upfront 4.50
36M upfront 4.00

Any future sizing change can be sanity-checked as RAM × rate.

Storage — Tier A steady state

Item GiB €/GiB/mo €/mo
stage block (ephemeral PG + Mongo + Qdrant in-VM) +50 0.10 5.00
vm-edge block (pg-keycloak + pg-infisical + Gitea repos) +50 0.10 5.00
vm-control block (MariaDB + Stalwart spool) +250 0.10 25.00
vm-data block (MongoDB + pg-app + Qdrant + MinIO) +500 0.10 50.00
Object storage — geo-redundant backups (DUS2↔HAM1) ~500 0.0496 25.00 (€12.50 first 6mo via launch discount)
Object storage — seed bundles + exports + audit archive ~100 0.02 2.00
Storage subtotal (steady state) 112.00
Storage subtotal (first 6 months) 99.50

Network

Item €/mo
1 Floating IP (vm-edge — only public host in prod) 2.92
1 Floating IP (stage — public for tester access) 2.92
PowerDNS (self-hosted on vm-edge) 0
Octavia Load Balancer (deferred to Tier D HA phase) 0
Network subtotal 5.84

Storage table above uses 1 Floating IP. Adjust to €5.84 if running stage with its own public IP (recommended). One-line delta of €2.92/mo.

Combined Tier A — four-mode summary

Mode Compute Storage Network Total net €/mo + 19% VAT Annual gross €
On-Demand 434.50 112 5.84 552.34 657.28 7,887
12M commit 295.20 112 5.84 413.04 491.52 5,898
36M no-upfront 216.00 112 5.84 333.84 397.27 4,767
36M upfront 192.00 112 5.84 309.84 368.71 4,425
Months Mode €/mo (net) Subtotal €
13 (rightsizing window) On-Demand 552.34 1,657
412 (proven baseline) 36M upfront 309.84 2,789
Year-1 infra net 4,446
+ 19% VAT 5,291
+ one-time 36M upfront in Month 4 (compute) 6,912
Year-1 cash out (gross) 12,203

3-year cumulative (full 36M commitment term)

Item
Months 13 On-Demand (compute+storage+net) 1,657
Compute 36M upfront (paid Month 4) 6,912
Storage + network, 36 months × ~118 €/mo 4,248
3-year infra net 12,817
+ 19% VAT 15,252

4. Growth tiers — what scales when

Tier A — Pilot (5 customers, first 6 months)

  • Locked topology: 4 VMs (stage + vm-edge + vm-control + vm-data). See INFRASTRUCTURE.md §1.
  • Year 1 cash plan: 3 months On-Demand → 36M upfront. ~€310/mo committed compute+storage+net + one-time €6,912.
  • Add: Self-Service support (free). Skip LB, DNSaaS, DDoS, DBaaS, MetaKube, Managed Services.

Tier B — Early growth (50200 customers, Year 1)

  • Vertical scale only. Bump vm-data m2.medium → m2.large (+€64/mo for 36M upfront).
  • Add cold-standby vm-edge-spare (€0 idle, only billed during a swap event).
  • Add Business Support (€185/mo) once MRR > €5k.
  • Add LB Single Instance (€14.60/mo) when we want zero-downtime portal deploys.
  • Add DDoS Guard PLUS (€875/mo) before any marketing push.
  • Estimated total: ~€1,1001,400/mo + VAT.

Tier C — Scale (5001000 customers, Year 12)

  • Split vm-data into vm-data + vm-data-db (move pg-app to its own VM; resolves RISK-1).
    • Alternative: move pg-registry to DBaaS m2.small cluster (3 inst, 36M upfront): €213/mo
  • Split vm-control into vm-control + vm-ops (ERPNext + MariaDB + Stalwart go to vm-ops): +€64/mo
  • HA edge: second vm-edge, switch Floating IP → Load Balancer Double Instance (€58/mo).
  • Object storage growth: audit logs, exports, demo backups → estimated 2 TB = €40/mo.
  • Estimated total: ~€2,0002,500/mo + VAT.

Tier D — Full scale (2000 customers, Year 23)

  • 3-node clusters on hot paths: vm-control × 2, vm-data × 2.
  • Split vm-edge into vm-edge + vm-identity + vm-secrets (back toward original 7-VM design).
  • DBaaS m2.medium cluster (4V/16GB, 36M upfront): €426/mo for tenant_registry.
  • Keycloak HA cluster: 2 vm-identity (m2.medium) + Postgres replica.
  • Priority Support (€545/mo) becomes worth it.
  • Object storage: ~5 TB = €100/mo.
  • DDoS Guard PREMIUM (€2,200/mo) if traffic warrants — likely stays on PLUS.
  • Estimated total: €4,5006,000/mo + VAT.

Compute scaling cheat sheet (vs locked topology)

Tier Customers Topology delta from Tier A Compute €/mo (36M upfront)
A 5 locked baseline: stage + 3 prod VMs (48 GiB) 192
B 200 + vm-data bumped m2.med → m2.large (+16 GiB) 256
C 1000 + split vm-data (+16 GiB), split vm-control (+16 GiB) 384
D 2000 + split vm-edge (3 → 3 VMs), HA clusters (~+90 GiB) ~640

The €4/GiB-RAM/mo rate (GP, 36M upfront) is the linear model — everything else (storage, network, support, DBaaS, DDoS) scales sub-linearly with customer count. Compute is never the bottleneck on the bill.


5. Cost per customer

Tier Customers Monthly infra net (€) Per customer/month (€)
A 5 310 62.00
B 200 1,200 6.00
C 1000 2,300 2.30
D 2000 5,000 2.50

At Tier A the per-customer cost is irrelevant — fixed costs dominate. From Tier B onward our gross margin on a Professional plan (assume €99/customer/month) is ~94% infrastructure-only. Add LLM passthrough (LiteLLM) + Polar.sh fees (~5%) + on-call time, and we are still well above the 80% gross margin floor SaaS investors look for.

Break-even: ~4 paying customers at €99/mo covers Tier A infra (€310/mo net).


6. SysEleven services we explicitly skip and why

Service Why skip
DNSaaS (€10/zone) We self-host PowerDNS on vm-gateway. €0 marginal cost since vm-gateway exists anyway.
MetaKube Core Orca already orchestrates our containers. MetaKube would mean abandoning Orca, which the user owns.
MetaKube Accelerator Same — competes with Orca.
MetaKube Operator add-ons (ExternalDNS, Cert-Manager, Tideways, Velero etc. at €78171/mo each) We pick and roll our own per self-hosted-oss-first.
Managed VM (Business €128142/mo per VM, Priority €164182) Defeats Orca. We are the operators. Saves €1k+/mo at 7 VMs.
Operational Support Platform (€7591,479/mo) Massively over-specified for our scale. Buy individual Engineering Support days (€1,264/day) on demand if a real incident requires it.
DDoS Guard PREMIUM (€2,200) / ENTERPRISE (€4,800) PLUS at €875/mo is enough for ≤500-customer scale. Upgrade if we see actual 1+ Tbps attacks.
Block Storage for Databases (€0.09 vs €0.10) The €0.01/GiB difference saves ~€5/mo at our scale. Use it only on DBaaS cluster volumes (where SysEleven enforces it anyway).

7. Negotiation levers

SysEleven publishes list prices but is open to commercial negotiation, especially as a German Mittelstand provider courting startups. Things worth asking for:

  1. Startup credits. Hetzner, OVH, and most EU clouds run startup-credit programs. Ask SysEleven for the equivalent before signing the 36M commit. Even €510k of credits = 612 months of Tier A infra free.
  2. EXIST / HTGF discount. If we close the €1.5M raise (project_breakpilot_fundraising), SysEleven sometimes offers "Gründerförderung" pricing for HTGF-backed companies.
  3. Single-region discount. We don't need DUS2 + HAM1 geo-redundancy at Tier A. Ask if single-region (DUS2 only) is cheaper.
  4. Object storage commitment. 6-month 50%-off on geo-redundant storage applies anyway, but bulk commitments on regular S3 may unlock further pricing.
  5. Bundled support. If we commit to 36M IaaS + Business Support, ask for support fee waiver in year 1.
  6. Move-in incentive. Negotiate a setup/migration credit covering first 3 months of On-Demand burn.

8. Open questions / things to validate

  • Port 25 outbound from vm-ops. Confirmed with SysEleven that outbound SMTP is allowed by default; if not, fall-back is to relay through Postal/Postmark for transactional only.
  • Region choice. DUS2 vs HAM1 — DUS2 is the only region for L40S GPUs, HAM1 has A30. If we never self-host inference, region is purely a latency choice (DUS2 closer to most EU customers).
  • Geo-redundant Ceph backups. Currently planning local block + S3 backup. Could also use SysEleven's geo-redundant S3 (DUS2 ↔ HAM1) for true DR. Cost: €0.05/GiB/mo vs €0.02 single-region. At 500GB backup that's €15/mo extra — buy it.
  • Egress traffic. Fair Use policy — they reserve the right to bill if we exceed normal patterns. CERTifAI LLM passthrough could be heavy. Ask for clarification on what triggers metered billing.
  • VPN-as-a-Service inclusive. Confirmed in the pricing doc. Use it for ops access — replaces our need to build IP-allowlists into Orca-Proxy for erp. and git..

9. Recommendation summary

  1. Sign On-Demand for first 90 days. Burn ~€1,365/mo while you find the right flavor for each VM.
  2. At Day 90, commit 36M upfront on proven baselines. Cuts monthly to ~€700.
  3. Keep all 7 VMs separate. The €100/mo difference vs. consolidation is not worth losing failure isolation.
  4. Skip every Managed Service. We have Orca.
  5. Add Business Support at €5k MRR, DDoS PLUS before any public marketing push.
  6. Negotiate startup credits before signing. Could be worth months of free infra.

End of document. Pricing snapshot 2026-01-20; re-check before signing commitments.